For the actor, surfing has been a big part of his life⁠⁠—especially at the time of filming Stranger Things. “I had the moments where I was like, ‘OK, cool, man, your brain’s feeling pretty f–ked right now, you need to go to the beach,'” he told Euphoria magazine earlier this month. Go for a surfing trip. Just get outside, and then relax for a couple of days. Then you can get back in it.

Vecna’s most challenging task is, however. His role is kept secret. He explained that when one becomes attached to large projects such as this, people get very excited about them and want to learn everything. While keeping my friends away and following the party lines was the most difficult thing for me, the character building was very easy.

Take his lips in your hands!