During his deposition, Carino was asked about an August 2017 text exchange with Heard, who wrote to him, “dealing with breakup. It is horrible when people make things public. C. I feel so sorry. Court was told by the agent that she believed she meant to refer to Elon’s split. He said that he had texted Heard, adding, “You weren’t in love” and, “You told me a thousand of times, you were only filling space.”

He also confirmed that she texted back, “I know, but I wanted time to grieve and recover in my own time.” Carino told the court, “I don’t know whether she’s referring to Johnny or to Elon in that line.”

In another text exchange, Heard wrote to Carino, “I hate it that yet again a man lets me fall on the spikes by myself.” Carino replied, “You can stop that if your stop dating super-famous persons.” It’s possible to be intimate with someone who isn’t well-known.

Earlier this week, in the final days of the trial, Heard’s lawyer read in court a text message Depp allegedly sent to Carino in August 2016, in which the actor said his ex was “begging for total global humiliation” and also referenced her relationship with Musk, dubbing the billionaire “Mollusk.”