Every rose has its thorn—just ask Bachelorette‘s Gabby Windey Rachel Recchia.

Both women are currently navigating the franchise’s first-ever two-lead season, and while they’ve certainly experienced several blissful moments with their suitors, the unprecedented format has also thrown them for a bit of a loop. Rachel exclusively shared this information during CelebHomes News. Daily Pop on August 2, “This season, for Gabby and I, has just provided struggle in ways we didn’t really think or expect.”

Rachel said, “So there are a lot ups and downs. Sometimes you get in your heads a bit.” We keep going regardless of what happens, because that is what the end result is all about.

Gabby echoed her co-lead’s sentiment, assuring Bachelor Nation fans that hope is on the horizon. She said that “I understand these last few episodes have been difficult for people” and likely was referring to the trainwreck of the rose ceremony. But what you aren’t seeing is the balance. Or else, we wouldn’t exist. It is not worth torturing ourselves. It’s worth it. There are many great moments.